It’s Amazing! After Thirteen Miles, We Still Have Beautiful Flowers!
“I don’t know what else I could have said. Sooner or later, before we say goodbye, if that’s how it goes, we’ll have to do some talking. Shielding him like this from the past may be doing him more harm than good. He’ll have to hear about Phædrus, although there’s much he can never know. Particularly the end.“(Cont.Next)
Fifteen mi South of La Pine, OR.
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Entrance to Foster Hall Viewed From the Central Campus Quadrangle of The University of Chicago. On the Road, the Narrator’s Thoughts Turn To Phaedrus’s Graduate School Experiences Here.
“Phædrus arrived at the University of Chicago already in a world of thought so different from the one you or I understand, it would be difficult to relate, even if I fully remembered everything. I know that the acting chairman admitted him during the Chairman’s absence on the basis of his teaching experience and apparent ability to converse intelligently. What he actually said is lost. Afterward he waited for a number of weeks for the Chairman to return in hopes of obtaining a scholarship, but when the Chairman did appear an interview took place which consisted essentially of one question and no answer. .. The Chairman said, "What is your substantive field?" .. Phædrus said, "English composition." .. The Chairman bellowed, "That is a methodological field!" And for all practical purposes that was the end of the interview.“”(U.Chicago.) He also reports what he was able to find out about the history of “The Committee on Analysis of Ideas and Study of Methods“
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL. Foster Hall is the next Building East of the Harper Memorial Library.
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Social Science Research, Lobby Just Inside Side Door. This Is My Best Photo of a “Stone Corridor.“
[The Narrator here explains, in 2.5 pages, how he spent the summer “ near the timberline …. and thought about Quality and substantive and methodological fields.““ He then continues:] “ I have one tiny fragment of Phædrus standing in the stone corridor of a building, evidently within the University of Chicago, addressing the assistant chairman of the committee, like a detective at the end of a movie, saying: "In your description of the committee, you have omitted one important name." .. "Yes?" says the assistant chairman. .. "Yes," says Phædrus omnisciently, " . . Aristotle. . . . " .. The assistant chairman is shocked for a moment, then, almost like a culprit who has been discovered but feels no guilt, laughs loud and long. .. "Oh, I see," he says. "You didn’t know . . . anything about. . . . ". Then he thinks better of what he is going to say and decides not to say anything more.“(Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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Just After the Turn South Into the Park: A Beautiful Snow Covered Volcanic Mountain and More Flowers! This Time There Is One Blue Flower and the Rest Are Pink Or Turning Brown
“We arrive at the turnoff to Crater Lake …. “(Cont.Next)
Intersection of Rt138 and North Entrance Road, Crater Lake National Park, OR. Below the Mountain, you can see a segment of the Highway pointing at the snow. Judging from the highway direction shown on my RandMcNally, this must be the Mountain of Crater Lake, but I am uncertain. Here, we should recall the Narrator’s “shorter route” decision back in Prineville Junction OR. Possibly related to this, he seems to attempt to cheer up Chris by going to more touristy places like Crater Lake, or later, the “Drive Thru Giant Redwood Tree” in California. However, even at these places, the Narrator, respectively 1) has negative emotions about the “touristy park attitude” or 2) completely fails to mention the tourist aspects of popular tourist attractions that they evidently visited. Such is the case at the ‘duck pond” at the Drive Thru Giant Redwood Tree in Leggett CA and also at Simpson Reed Grove, a Giant Redwood Forest. See my further discussions with upcoming photos The Pink flowers above, are a color I failed to find at Beartooth Pass. The next photo was taken from the crest of the highway segment seen in the above photo.
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A Cathedral of Trees Line the Road South Into The Park.
“ …. [We arrive at the turnoff to Crater Lake] and go up a neat road into the National Park — clean, tidy and preserved. It really shouldn’t be any other way, but this doesn’t win any prizes for Quality either. It turns it into a museum.“(Cont.Next)
Several mi North of Intersection of Rt138 and North Entrance Road, Crater Lake National Park, OR. Why does the Narrator say this about this National Park and other similar places? It seemed to me so wrong at the outset. It took me a great deal of time plus thoughtful consideration of the Narrator’s total life experiences to begin to accept what he says. I had to consider the Narrator’s sum total experiences in the High Country where he was in direct contact with the awesome processes of Nature, head-on. Such areas are totally Nature and uncontaminated by impact of humans. Any park national or otherwise, becomes a pale substitute for the open expanses that were once there. But as the Narrator says, “It really shouldn’t be any other way …. “. It can’t be any other way! Given a flood of people who want to experience a bit of the grandeur, there must be some way to control the inevitable destruction of so many tromping feet, not to mention the trash that inconsiderate people leave behind. Once you begin to see what the Narrator is talking about, then you as a Pilgrim, can begin to seek out those more pristine areas and mindfully work to protect them. As the Narrator says, one person at a time. If concerned people (you and I) all do this, then even the un-natural face of these parks can be changed by the very choices actually made. The unnatural (cultural) imports can be gradually removed and the parks can change by the people who come, rather than the reverse!
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View of Pumice & Dark Lava Inside the Top Edge of the Crater.
“This is how it was before the white man came — beautiful lava flows, and scrawny trees, and not a beer can anywhere—but now that the white man is here, it looks fake. Maybe the National Park Service should set just one pile of beer cans in the middle of all that lava and then it would come to life. The absence of beer cans is distracting.“(Cont.Next)
Crater Lake National Park, OR. I do not recall seeing any lava flows prior to viewing the inside of the crater. The two previous photos showed the entrance highway going directly toward the Volcanic Mountain of Crater Lake. As the highway neared the base of the Mountain, it turned SW to climbed the Western slopes. Then, we kept turning slightly left as we were circling the mountain and climbing. This photo and five were taken at the top and upon the Western side of the crater. I have many other photos, including panorama photos, which will eventually be placed in these albums.
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Just Like Tourist Anywhere. The People At the Top of the Climb Are Viewing the Lake, Next Photo.
“At the lake we stop and stretch and mingle affably with the small crowd of tourists holding cameras and children yelling, "Don’t go too close!" and see cars and campers with all different license plates, …. ”(Cont.Next)
Crater Lake National Park, OR.
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Its Fantastic! What a View!! The Island At Right Is a Small Cinder Cone That Pushed Up After the Monster Explosion that Created This Huge Crater. This Explosion Was In the Exact Middle of What Was Once A Much Higher Mountain called Mount Mazama.
“ …. and see the Crater Lake with a feeling of "Well, there it is," just as the pictures show. I watch the other tourists, all of whom seem to have out-of-place looks too. I have no resentment at all this, just a feeling that it’s all unreal and that the quality of the lake is smothered by the fact that it’s so pointed to. You point to something as having Quality and the Quality tends to go away.“(Cont.Next)
Crater Lake National Park, OR. Click picture, and scroll to get a larger view. Usually when the Narrator encounters a park or a town that he doesn't approve of, he "passes-on-by" with no mention of it. This is un-typical of most other sights. So why does the Narrator mention Crater Lake despite his disapproval of it? Do you have the answer? In ZMM the Chautauqua decides the scenery: The Narrator wants us to realize that despite the beauty, too much pointing to it, destroys it!! (See my discussion of "pass-on-by" in these photos, especially the "Drive Thru California Redwood Tree In Leggett, CA http://ww2.usca.edu/ResearchProjects/ProfessorGurr/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album09&id=116_1671_IMG and Kooskia, ID. http://ww2.usca.edu/ResearchProjects/ProfessorGurr/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album08&id=110_1088c ).
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Looking Down, Way, Way Down, We See Tiny Trees by the Waters Edge. What a View!!
“Quality is what you see out of the corner of your eye, and so I look at the lake below but feel the peculiar quality from the chill, almost frigid sunlight behind me, and the almost motionless wind.“(Cont.Next)
Crater Lake National Park, OR. Also, for me, there was no noticeable wind. Although it was hot in the direct sun, the cool air made a very pleasant day.
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Another View of the Fantastic Pure Blue at Crater Lake! What a View!!
“[You point to something as having Quality and the Quality tends to go away.] Quality is what you see out of the corner of your eye, and so I look at the lake below but feel the peculiar quality from the chill, almost frigid sunlight behind me, and the almost motionless wind.]“(Cont.Next)
Crater Lake National Park, OR. Click picture, and scroll to get a larger view. The Narrator continues to use the "fakey" feeling of Crater Lake, to tell us more about Quality in experience. A great aerial view of Crater Lake is at http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=365472
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In the Parking Lot, Fellow Tourists Can Hear Everything You Say.
“"Why did we come here?" Chris says. .. "To see the lake." .. He doesn’t like this. He senses falseness and frowns deep, trying to find the right question to expose it. "I just hate this," he says. .. A tourist lady looks at him with surprise, then resentment. .. "Well, what can we do, Chris?" I ask. "We just have to keep going until we find out what’s wrong or find out why we don’t know what’s wrong. Do you see that?" .. He doesn’t answer. The lady pretends not to be listening, but her motionlessness reveals that she is. We walk toward the motorcycle, and I try to think of something, but nothing comes. I see he’s crying a little and now looks away to prevent me from seeing it.“(Cont.Next)
Crater Lake National Park, OR.
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Another Cathedral of Trees On the Way Down to the South.
“We wind down out of the park to the south. .. “(Cont.Next)
Crater Lake National Park, OR. Because I have not, yet, completely adjusted myself to the quality/value standards of the Narrator, I really enjoyed my 6 hours within the park. As a measure of how thrilled I was, I ended up taking 50 photos in Crater Lake Park. I well remember my trip to Crater Lake in February of 1989. My son and I almost did not make it up there. On the road up, there was a considerable amount of hard packed snow, topped with a coating of new slippery snow. My van wheels slipped so badly on the hard packed snow & ice, I almost could not go forward! When we got to the crater, I remember the landscape was covered with deep snow and the visitor center was surrounded by huge mounds pushed off the parking lot pavement. While there, we experienced very dark stormy skies with cold blustery wind. =Everything was white with the snow, including the frozen lake and the surrounding crater walls. Our windy cold winter scene was a real disappointment, and can’t possibly compare to the summertime beauty of the blue, blue, lake contrasting with surrounding mountains and green trees. Even the pure blue sky is part of the Summer thrill. Although Winter at Crater Lake was bitterly cold, it was beastly hot as soon as we reached lower elevations and back into the bright desert sun - especially Klamath Lake in mid afternoon.
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The Narrator Now Returns To Phaedrus’s Story In Chicago.
“I said the assistant chairman for the Committee on Analysis of Ideas and Study of Methods was shocked. What he was so shocked about was that Phædrus didn’t know he was at the locus of what is probably the most famous academic controversy of the century, what a California university president described as the last attempt in history to change the course of an entire university. .. Phædrus’ reading turned up a brief history of that famous revolt against empirical education that had taken place in the early thirties. The Committee on Analysis of Ideas and Study of Methods was a vestige of that attempt.“(U.Chicago Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
Detour in new browser frame for Map of U. Chicago Central Quadrangle. Map identifies many buildings mentioned in my photos.
Detour in new browser frame for Map of U. Chicago Hospital and Bookstore. Map identifies many buildings mentioned in my photos.

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A View Looking West At the Medieval Towers of The University of Chicago’s Cobb Lecture Hall. This Is One of Main Classroom Buildings for the University. The Renaissance Center is On the Fifth and Top Floor Seen Here.
“The leaders of the revolt were Robert Maynard Hutchins, who had become president of the University of Chicago; Mortimer Adler, whose work on the psychological background of the law of evidence was somewhat similar to work being done at Yale by Hutchins; Scott Buchanan, a philosopher and mathematician; and most important of all for Phædrus, the present chairman of the committee, who was then a Columbia University Spinozist and medievalist.“(U.Chicago Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL. Cobb Lecture Hall is on the West end of U C’s Central Quadrangle.
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In Front of UC’s Cobb Lecture Hall Looking South to Bond Chapel (Left) and Wieboldt Hall (Right). Across the Central Quadrangle, Phaedrus Probably Passed This Ivy Covered Chapel Many Times.
“Adler’s study of evidence, cross-fertilized by a reading of classics of the Western world, resulted in a conviction that human wisdom had advanced relatively little in recent times. He consistently harked back to St. Thomas Aquinas, who had taken Plato and Aristotle and made them part of his medieval synthesis of Greek philosophy and Christian faith. The work of Aquinas and of the Greeks, as interpreted by Aquinas, was to Adler the capstone of the Western intellectual heritage. Therefore they provided a measuring rod for anyone seeking the good books. “(U.Chicago Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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And Why Is This Super High Electric Fence Here?
[The Narrator completes a four paged discussion of: 1) Phaedrus’ discoveries about the University of Chicago, 2) Hutchin’s and Adler’s Great Books Program, and 3)Aristotle. Phaedrus’s hatred of Aristotle is also reviewed. This part of the story ends Phaedrus’ proposition regarding Aristotle in an audacious letter to the Chairman of the Committee on Ideas and Methods. We then are switched back to the road:] "We travel down the eastern shore of Klamath Lake on a three-lane highway that contains a lot of nineteen- twenties feeling. That’s when these three-laners were all made."(Cont.Next)
Eleven mi North of Klamath Falls, OR. Klamath is the name of one of three Native American tribes that lived in this region prior to the arrival of the Europeans. As I drove South along Rt97 after Crater Lake following the Eastern Shore of Upper Klamath Lake, I did not discover any evidence for a three lane road that would fit the Narrator’s descriptions. I deduce that I traveled on a newer straightened highway, different from the road the Narrator traveled on in 1968. TopoZone Maps show where the old road may have gone thru the towns in the area. Perhaps some portions of the old three lane road remain there. (See Link Below) These maps also show plenty of dikes and pumping stations. Evidently this is done for agriculture in agreement with the statements of Wetlands Wildlife Preserve WebPages. They say that 80% of original wetlands have been drained. (See second link below. The third link below gives history of the area.)
Detour in new browser frame for http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=42.404991&lon=-121.8272
Detour in new browser frame for http://www.waterwatch.org/Campaigns/Klamath/klamath2.htm
Detour in new browser frame for http://www.klamathcounty.net/history.htm
Detour in new browser frame for http://www.runningy.com/Location/?page=history
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The Little Pine Cafe' (Back in Mitchel, OR) Is an Example of an Oregon Roadhouse. Clearly It Is Much Better Than What the Narrator May Have Experienced At Klamath Lake.
“We pull in for lunch at a roadhouse which belongs to this era too. Wooden frame badly in need of paint, neon beer signs in the window, gravel and engine drippings for a front lawn. .. Inside, the toilet seat is cracked and the washbowl is covered with grease streaks, …. “(Cont.Next)
Somewhere along the Eastern shore of Klamath Lake, OR. My imagination failed me in my search for the Narrator’s Klamath Lake Road House!! My 1964 RMcN map shows, the towns along the waters edge of Upper Klamath Lake. These are Modoc Point, Algoma, Wocus, Pelican City, and Klamath Falls. (Pelican City is now a Northern Suburb of Klamath Falls.) I was expecting all these towns to be along the lake waterfront, and at one time they probably were. (I vaguely remember beach type homes along the lake when I came thru here in 1989.) I hypothesize that originally these towns were situated by the lake edge marshes. And the main N-S road curved along the lake edge to go through them. The Topozone maps (previous photo) shows extensive dikes and pumping stations. To make dry farm land, these dykes apparently t, have moved both the water’s edge and the highway!! Consequently the new & straightened Rt97 is some 3/4 mile East of Algoma and Wocus. Moreover, on the approach to Klamath Falls, Rt57 travels on a huge dike (at lake’s edge) for a considerable distance. The next photo explains why I failed to find the Narrator's Road House and why I now request help for getting photos to fit the above ZMM passage.
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Inside The Little Pine Cafe' Back in Mitchel, OR. This Roadhouse Owner Represents What the Narrator May Have Experienced by Kalmath Lake. Clearly This Restaurant Is Much, Much, Better Than What the Narrator Described at Klamath Lake
“ …. on my way back to our booth I take a second look at the owner behind the bar. A nineteen-twenties face. Uncomplicated, uncool and unbowed. This is his castle. We’re his guests. And if we don’t like his hamburgers we’d better shut up. .. When they arrive, the hamburgers, with giant raw onions, are tasty and the bottle beer is fine. A whole meal for a lot less than you’d pay at one of those old-ladies places with plastic flowers in the window. As we eat I see on the map we’ve taken a wrong turn way back and could have gotten to the ocean much quicker by another route. “(Cont.Next) [See my previous photos for Redmond Oregon for more information re the "wrong turn way back".]
Somewhere along the Eastern shore of Klamath Lake, OR. I’m sorry not to have found any candidates for the Narrator’s roadhouse along the East side of Klamath Lake. My imagination failed me!! It never occurred to me that I was on a new highway a considerable distance away from the towns the Narrator may have gone through. I now realize I was misled by my memory of a previous trip 13 years ago (see caption of next photo.) I had the quite reasonable memory expectation that the towns were at the water’s edge. Since I was traveling at the water’s edge, I kept going under the belief that I would find these towns per my memory. But were these were merely ghosts in my mind? No! This is not likely the reason. I probably failed to see the water’s edge (and the towns) because the water had been moved and I did not realize this! Since my trip, a new dyke system is likely to have been built far from the original shore. This allowed the water to be pumped out, and thus the creation of new agriculture land. See Topozone maps 2nd photo previous. Also see the other links on the 2nd photo previous for considerable discussion of how a largest percentage of the original Upper Klamath Lake has been claimed for agriculture!!
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