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The Eastern USA Cultural Influence Spreads West To Oregon.  “It’s hot now, a West Coast sticky hotness which after the Western Desert hotness is very depressing. Really, this is just transported East, all of this scene, and I’d like to get to the ocean where it’s cool as soon as possible.“(Cont.Next)  Enter Klamath Falls, OR. I have memories of when I traveled this way in Winter of ‘98. I remember how beastly hot the western mid pm sun became and that there was a three lane highway. I remember seeing, through the trees, the glare of the hot late afternoon sun, reflected from the lake. Amongst the trees were rundown, small unkempt beach type homes along the lake front. The beastly heat exaggerated the amount of time it took, at 55 mph, to pass the lake. I was surprised how big the lake was in this dry desert region. My trip by Klamath Lake was several days after a Workshop Course in Portland OR, 15 Feb 1989. New topic: There was once a Klamath Falls on the so called Link River that connected Upper Klamath Lake to lower Klamath Lake. The falls have since been covered by water. Was this, perhaps, a dam raising Lower Klamath Lake which perhaps raised the level of both lakes as well as covering the falls?  *******************************  (Photo = 114-1462 ...... ZMM Page = 313 ...... WayPt = 386w 4272ft)
The Eastern USA Cultural Influence Spreads West To Oregon.
It’s hot now, a West Coast sticky hotness which after the Western Desert hotness is very depressing. Really, this is just transported East, all of this scene, and I’d like to get to the ocean where it’s cool as soon as possible.“(Cont.Next)
Enter Klamath Falls, OR. I have memories of when I traveled this way in Winter of ‘98. I remember how beastly hot the western mid pm sun became and that there was a three lane highway. I remember seeing, through the trees, the glare of the hot late afternoon sun, reflected from the lake. Amongst the trees were rundown, small unkempt beach type homes along the lake front. The beastly heat exaggerated the amount of time it took, at 55 mph, to pass the lake. I was surprised how big the lake was in this dry desert region. My trip by Klamath Lake was several days after a Workshop Course in Portland OR, 15 Feb 1989. New topic: There was once a Klamath Falls on the so called Link River that connected Upper Klamath Lake to lower Klamath Lake. The falls have since been covered by water. Was this, perhaps, a dam raising Lower Klamath Lake which perhaps raised the level of both lakes as well as covering the falls?
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After a Concentrated Search, I Was Able To Find the Road Along the Southern Shore of the Lake.  “ […. this is just transported East, all of this scene, and I’d like to get to the ocean where it’s cool as soon as possible.] .. I think about this all around the southern shore of Klamath Lake. “(Cont.Next)  Rt140, SW shore of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.   *******************************  (Photo = 114-1463 ...... ZMM Page = 313 ...... WayPt = 387w 4197ft)
After a Concentrated Search, I Was Able To Find the Road Along the Southern Shore of the Lake.
[…. this is just transported East, all of this scene, and I’d like to get to the ocean where it’s cool as soon as possible.] .. I think about this all around the southern shore of Klamath Lake. “(Cont.Next)
Rt140, SW shore of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.
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Along the Road, Looking Back Towards Klamath Falls.  [The sticky heat of Klamath Lake brings memories to the Narrator.] “Sticky hotness and nineteen-twenties funk.. . . . That was the feeling of Chicago that summer.“(Cont.Next)  Rt140, SW shore of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.  *******************************  (Photo = 114-1464 ...... ZMM Page = 313 ...... WayPt = 387k 4197ft)
Along the Road, Looking Back Towards Klamath Falls.
[The sticky heat of Klamath Lake brings memories to the Narrator.] “Sticky hotness and nineteen-twenties funk.. . . . That was the feeling of Chicago that summer.“(Cont.Next)
Rt140, SW shore of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.
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Nineteen Thirties Style Apartments Several Blocks North of the University of Chicago. Perhaps This What Phaedrus’s Chicago Place of Residence Looked Like.  [At Klamath lake, the three lane highway, the heat, and 1930’s type buildings remind the Narrator of his feelings of Chicago that summer.] “When Phædrus and his family arrived in Chicago, he took up residence near the University and, since he had no scholarship, began full-time teaching of rhetoric at the University of Illinois, which was then downtown at Navy Pier, sticking out into the lake, funky and hot. .. Classes were different from those in Montana. The top high-school students had been skimmed off to the Champaign and Urbana campuses and almost all the students he taught were a solid monotonous C. When their papers were judged in class for Quality it was hard to distinguish among them. Phædrus, in other circumstances, probably would have invented something to get around this, but now this was just bread-and-butter work for which he couldn’t spare creative energy. His interest lay to the south at the other University.“(U.Chicago.Cont Next)  Several blocks North of The University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.  *******************************  (Photo = 101-0153 ...... ZMM Page = 313 ...... WayPt = -034 0590 ft)
Nineteen Thirties Style Apartments Several Blocks North of the University of Chicago. Perhaps This What Phaedrus’s Chicago Place of Residence Looked Like.
[At Klamath lake, the three lane highway, the heat, and 1930’s type buildings remind the Narrator of his feelings of Chicago that summer.] “When Phædrus and his family arrived in Chicago, he took up residence near the University and, since he had no scholarship, began full-time teaching of rhetoric at the University of Illinois, which was then downtown at Navy Pier, sticking out into the lake, funky and hot. .. Classes were different from those in Montana. The top high-school students had been skimmed off to the Champaign and Urbana campuses and almost all the students he taught were a solid monotonous C. When their papers were judged in class for Quality it was hard to distinguish among them. Phædrus, in other circumstances, probably would have invented something to get around this, but now this was just bread-and-butter work for which he couldn’t spare creative energy. His interest lay to the south at the other University.“(U.Chicago.Cont Next)
Several blocks North of The University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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In Front of U C’s Cobb Lecture Hall Looking North.  “He entered the University of Chicago registration lineup, announced his name to the registering Professor of Philosophy and noticed a slight setting of the eyes. The Professor of Philosophy said, Oh, yes, the Chairman had asked that he be registered in an Ideas and Methods course which the Chairman himself was teaching, and give him the schedule of the course. Phædrus noted that the time set for the class conflicted with his schedule at Navy Pier and chose instead another one, Ideas and Methods 251, Rhetoric. Since rhetoric was his own field, he felt a little more at home here. And the lecturer wasn’t the Chairman. The lecturer was the Professor of Philosophy now registering him. The Professor of Philosophy’s eyes, formerly set, now became wide. .. Phædrus returned to his teaching at Navy Pier and his reading for his first class. It was now absolutely necessary that he study as he had never studied before to learn the thought of Classic Greece in general and of one Classic Greek in particular—Aristotle.“(U.Chicago ContNext)  University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.  *******************************  (Photo = 100-0091 ...... ZMM Page = 314 ...... WayPt = -034 0590 ft)
In Front of U C’s Cobb Lecture Hall Looking North.
He entered the University of Chicago registration lineup, announced his name to the registering Professor of Philosophy and noticed a slight setting of the eyes. The Professor of Philosophy said, Oh, yes, the Chairman had asked that he be registered in an Ideas and Methods course which the Chairman himself was teaching, and give him the schedule of the course. Phædrus noted that the time set for the class conflicted with his schedule at Navy Pier and chose instead another one, Ideas and Methods 251, Rhetoric. Since rhetoric was his own field, he felt a little more at home here. And the lecturer wasn’t the Chairman. The lecturer was the Professor of Philosophy now registering him. The Professor of Philosophy’s eyes, formerly set, now became wide. .. Phædrus returned to his teaching at Navy Pier and his reading for his first class. It was now absolutely necessary that he study as he had never studied before to learn the thought of Classic Greece in general and of one Classic Greek in particular—Aristotle.“(U.Chicago ContNext)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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In Front of U C’s Cobb Lecture Hall Looking East Into the South Sidewalk, Main Quad (Quadrangle). Swift Hall Is At Right.  “Of all the thousands of students at the University of Chicago who had studied the ancient classics it’s doubtful that there was ever a more dedicated one. The main struggle of the University’s Great Books program was against the modern belief that the classics [Classic Greece in general and of one Classic Greek in particular—Aristotle.] had nothing of any real importance to say to a twentieth-century society. To be sure, the majority of students taking the courses must have played the game of nice manners with their teachers, and accepted, for purposes of understanding, the prerequisite belief that the ancients had something meaningful to say. But Phædrus, playing no games at all, didn’t just accept this idea. He passionately and fanatically knew it. He came to hate them vehemently, and to assail them with every kind of invective he could think of, not because they were irrelevant but for exactly the opposite reason. The more he studied, the more convinced he became that no one had yet told the damage to this world that had resulted from our unconscious acceptance of their thought.“(Cont.Next)  University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.  *******************************  (Photo = 100-0096 ...... ZMM Page = 314 ...... WayPt = -034 0590 ft)
In Front of U C’s Cobb Lecture Hall Looking East Into the South Sidewalk, Main Quad (Quadrangle). Swift Hall Is At Right.
Of all the thousands of students at the University of Chicago who had studied the ancient classics it’s doubtful that there was ever a more dedicated one. The main struggle of the University’s Great Books program was against the modern belief that the classics [Classic Greece in general and of one Classic Greek in particular—Aristotle.] had nothing of any real importance to say to a twentieth-century society. To be sure, the majority of students taking the courses must have played the game of nice manners with their teachers, and accepted, for purposes of understanding, the prerequisite belief that the ancients had something meaningful to say. But Phædrus, playing no games at all, didn’t just accept this idea. He passionately and fanatically knew it. He came to hate them vehemently, and to assail them with every kind of invective he could think of, not because they were irrelevant but for exactly the opposite reason. The more he studied, the more convinced he became that no one had yet told the damage to this world that had resulted from our unconscious acceptance of their thought.“(Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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Homes Along the Highway in SW Oregon.  “[Around the southern shore of Klamath Lake we pass through some suburban-type development,] and then leave the lake …. “(Cont.Next)  Upper Klamath Lake, OR. Photo to fit ZMM passage needed. Caution: There is no Route marker sign where Rt140 turns left away from the lake’s West Shore Drive.  *******************************  (Photo = 115-1510 ...... ZMM Page = 315 ..... WayPt = 387i ~4200. Photo at ft407x 1365ft)
Homes Along the Highway in SW Oregon.
[Around the southern shore of Klamath Lake we pass through some suburban-type development,] and then leave the lake …. “(Cont.Next)
Upper Klamath Lake, OR. Photo to fit ZMM passage needed. Caution: There is no Route marker sign where Rt140 turns left away from the lake’s West Shore Drive.
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Looking Back Towards Klamath Lake (East) In Mountainous Southwest Oregon. Here the Road “Crests” the Summit.   “ …. [and then leave the lake] to the west, toward the coast. The road goes up now into the forests of huge trees not at all like the rain-starved forests we’ve been through.“(Cont.Next)  Eleven mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.  Caution: There is no Route marker sign where Rt140 turns left away from the lake’s West Shore Drive. *******************************  (Photo = 114-1465 ..... ZMM Page =  315 ...... WayPt = 388w 5160ft)
Looking Back Towards Klamath Lake (East) In Mountainous Southwest Oregon. Here the Road “Crests” the Summit.
…. [and then leave the lake] to the west, toward the coast. The road goes up now into the forests of huge trees not at all like the rain-starved forests we’ve been through.“(Cont.Next)
Eleven mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. Caution: There is no Route marker sign where Rt140 turns left away from the lake’s West Shore Drive.
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Douglas Fir Trees Are Found Along the Road Summit. View Forward (West) Toward Medford, CA and Grants Pass, CA.  “Huge Douglas firs are on either side of the road. On the cycle we can look up along their trunks, straight up, for hundreds of feet as we pass between them. “(Cont.Next)  Eleven mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. *******************************  (Photo = 114-1466 ...... ZMM Page =  315 ...... WayPt = 388k 5160ft)
Douglas Fir Trees Are Found Along the Road Summit. View Forward (West) Toward Medford, CA and Grants Pass, CA.
Huge Douglas firs are on either side of the road. On the cycle we can look up along their trunks, straight up, for hundreds of feet as we pass between them. “(Cont.Next)
Eleven mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.
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Road Summit In SW Oregon Mountains Going West   “ Chris wants to stop and walk among them and so we stop. .. While he goes for a walk I lean my back as carefully as possible against a big slab of Douglas fir bark and look up and try to remember.. . . . “(Cont.Next)  Eleven mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. All the scenery since Crater Lake exactly fits the Narrator’s descriptions.  *******************************  (Photo = 114-1467 ..... ZMM Page =  315 ..... WayPt = 388m 5160ft)
Road Summit In SW Oregon Mountains Going West
Chris wants to stop and walk among them and so we stop. .. While he goes for a walk I lean my back as carefully as possible against a big slab of Douglas fir bark and look up and try to remember.. . . . “(Cont.Next)
Eleven mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. All the scenery since Crater Lake exactly fits the Narrator’s descriptions.
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Cobb Lecture Hall, Main Entrance Door. The Narrator Tries To Remember What Happened At U. Chicago That Summer of 1961.  “ The details of what he learned are lost now, but from events that occurred later I know he absorbed tremendous quantities of information. He was capable of doing this on a near-photographic basis. To understand how he arrived at his condemnation of the Classic Greeks it’s necessary to review in summary form the "mythos over logos" argument, which is well known to scholars of Greek and is often a cause of fascination with that area of study.“(U.Chicago Cont.Next)  University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.  *******************************  (Photo = 101-0084 ...... ZMM Page = 315 ...... WayPt = -034 0590 ft)
Cobb Lecture Hall, Main Entrance Door. The Narrator Tries To Remember What Happened At U. Chicago That Summer of 1961.
The details of what he learned are lost now, but from events that occurred later I know he absorbed tremendous quantities of information. He was capable of doing this on a near-photographic basis. To understand how he arrived at his condemnation of the Classic Greeks it’s necessary to review in summary form the "mythos over logos" argument, which is well known to scholars of Greek and is often a cause of fascination with that area of study.“(U.Chicago Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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East End of U C Main Quad Looking North.   [The Narrator next reviews: “ 1) Mythos is the sum total of the early historic and prehistoric myths which preceded the logos.“ 2) Memories of Phardrus’s argument of how “To go outside the mythos is to become insane. . . . “. 3) And concludes this part of his Chautauqua with:] “Now it comes! Because Quality is the generator of the mythos. That’s it. That’s what he meant when he said, "Quality is the continuing stimulus which causes us to create the world in which we live. All of it. Every last bit of it." Religion isn’t invented by man. Men are invented by religion. Men invent responses to Quality, and among these responses is an understanding of what they themselves are.“(U.Chicago Cont.Next)  University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.  *******************************  (Photo = 101-0123 ..... ZMM Page = 315 ...... WayPt = -034 0590 ft)
East End of U C Main Quad Looking North.
[The Narrator next reviews: “ 1) Mythos is the sum total of the early historic and prehistoric myths which preceded the logos.“ 2) Memories of Phardrus’s argument of how “To go outside the mythos is to become insane. . . . “. 3) And concludes this part of his Chautauqua with:] “Now it comes! Because Quality is the generator of the mythos. That’s it. That’s what he meant when he said, "Quality is the continuing stimulus which causes us to create the world in which we live. All of it. Every last bit of it." Religion isn’t invented by man. Men are invented by religion. Men invent responses to Quality, and among these responses is an understanding of what they themselves are.“(U.Chicago Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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At East End U C Main Quad Looking Northwest.  [Phaedrus] said: “"Quality is the continuing stimulus which causes us to create the world in which we live. All of it. Every last bit of it." …. You know something and then the Quality stimulus hits and then you try to define the Quality stimulus, but to define it all you’ve got to work with is what you know. So your definition is made up of what you know. It’s an analogue to what you already know. It has to be. It can’t be anything else. And the mythos grows this way. By analogies to what is known before. The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues upon analogues.“(U.Chicago Cont.Next)  University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.  *******************************  (Photo = 101-0124 ...... ZMM Page = 317 ...... WayPt = -034 0590 ft)
At East End U C Main Quad Looking Northwest.
[Phaedrus] said: “"Quality is the continuing stimulus which causes us to create the world in which we live. All of it. Every last bit of it." …. You know something and then the Quality stimulus hits and then you try to define the Quality stimulus, but to define it all you’ve got to work with is what you know. So your definition is made up of what you know. It’s an analogue to what you already know. It has to be. It can’t be anything else. And the mythos grows this way. By analogies to what is known before. The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues upon analogues.“(U.Chicago Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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East End U C. Main Quad Looking East.  “[The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues upon analogues.] These fill the collective consciousness of all communicating mankind. Every last bit of it. The Quality is the track that directs the train. What is outside the train, to either side—that is the terra incognita of the insane. He knew that to understand Quality he would have to leave the mythos. That’s why he felt that slippage. He knew something was about to happen.“(Cont.Next)  University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.  *******************************  (Photo = 101-0125 ...... ZMM Page = 317 ...... WayPt = -034 0590 ft)
East End U C. Main Quad Looking East.
[The mythos is a building of analogues upon analogues upon analogues.] These fill the collective consciousness of all communicating mankind. Every last bit of it. The Quality is the track that directs the train. What is outside the train, to either side—that is the terra incognita of the insane. He knew that to understand Quality he would have to leave the mythos. That’s why he felt that slippage. He knew something was about to happen.“(Cont.Next)
University of Chicago, Chicago, IL.
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View Among the Douglas Firs At Road Summit In SW Oregon Mountains.  “I see Chris returning through the trees now. He looks relaxed and happy. He shows me a piece of bark and asks if he can save it as a souvenir. I haven’t been fond of loading the cycle with these bits and pieces he finds and will probably throw away when he gets home, but this time say okay anyway.“(Cont.Next)  Eleven mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. The Narrator has stopped because Chris asked. Also he allows Chris, against normal practice, to bring bark. Is the Narrator trying to please Chris more? Or is it the Narrator’s response to his own Quality lectures? Nevertheless the Narrator doesn’t go with Chris or promote more of these relaxing opportunities for himself and Chris. Yes, I know the story is “just” a vehicle for these Chautauquas, but evidently such walks did not happen or the Narrator would have mentioned them.  *******************************  (Photo = 114-1470c mirror and hand ...... ZMM Page = 317 ...... WayPt = 388p 5160ft)
View Among the Douglas Firs At Road Summit In SW Oregon Mountains.
I see Chris returning through the trees now. He looks relaxed and happy. He shows me a piece of bark and asks if he can save it as a souvenir. I haven’t been fond of loading the cycle with these bits and pieces he finds and will probably throw away when he gets home, but this time say okay anyway.“(Cont.Next)
Eleven mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR. The Narrator has stopped because Chris asked. Also he allows Chris, against normal practice, to bring bark. Is the Narrator trying to please Chris more? Or is it the Narrator’s response to his own Quality lectures? Nevertheless the Narrator doesn’t go with Chris or promote more of these relaxing opportunities for himself and Chris. Yes, I know the story is “just” a vehicle for these Chautauquas, but evidently such walks did not happen or the Narrator would have mentioned them.
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The Road Summit and View to Valley and Mountains Beyond.  “After a few minutes the road reaches a summit  …. “(Cont.Next)  Twenty four mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.  *******************************  (Photo = 114-1473 ...... ZMM Page =  317 ..... WayPt = 389w ~5160ft)
The Road Summit and View to Valley and Mountains Beyond.
After a few minutes the road reaches a summit …. “(Cont.Next)
Twenty four mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.
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Now At a Lower Elevation, We Are Moving Towards the Narrator’s Coastal California Valleys.  …. “and then drops steeply into a valley that becomes more exquisite as we descend. I never thought I would call a valley that—exquisite—but there’s something about this whole coastal country so different from any other mountainous region in America that it brings out the word. Here, a little farther south, is where all our good wine comes from. The hills are somehow tucked and folded differently—exquisitely. “(Cont.Next) Twenty eight mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.  *******************************  (Photo = 114-1476 ...... ZMM Page = 317 ...... WayPt = 390w 2113ft)
Now At a Lower Elevation, We Are Moving Towards the Narrator’s Coastal California Valleys.
…. “and then drops steeply into a valley that becomes more exquisite as we descend. I never thought I would call a valley that—exquisite—but there’s something about this whole coastal country so different from any other mountainous region in America that it brings out the word. Here, a little farther south, is where all our good wine comes from. The hills are somehow tucked and folded differently—exquisitely. “(Cont.Next)
Twenty eight mi West of Upper Klamath Lake, OR.
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We Leave the Douglas Firs and Cool Oregon Mountains. The Beauty Of the Countryside Gives the Narrator a Tremendous Boost.  “The road twists and banks and curlecues and descends and we and the cycle smoothly roll with it, following it in a separate grace of our own, almost touching the waxen leaves of shrubs and overhanging boughs of trees. The firs and rocks of the higher country are behind us now and around us are soft hills and vines and purple and red flowers, fragrance mixed with woodsmoke up from the distant fog along the valley floor and from beyond that, unseen—a vague scent of ocean. .  . How can I love all this so much and be insane? . . . I don’t believe it! “(Cont.Next)  Six mi East of White City, OR. White City is now a Northern suburb of Medford, OR. Here again we see the Narrator’s need for support from “Good old reality.“ We deduce that the Narrator’s full participation in the beautiful coastal country ahead comes from the positive effects of his remembering Phaedrus’s Quality discoveries. From this, he is certain he is not insane, rather the insanity comes from the Mythos, wrongly understood and presently used in Western Culture.  *******************************  (Photo = 114-1477b ..... ZMM Page = 317 ...... WayPt = 391w 1593ft)
We Leave the Douglas Firs and Cool Oregon Mountains. The Beauty Of the Countryside Gives the Narrator a Tremendous Boost.
The road twists and banks and curlecues and descends and we and the cycle smoothly roll with it, following it in a separate grace of our own, almost touching the waxen leaves of shrubs and overhanging boughs of trees. The firs and rocks of the higher country are behind us now and around us are soft hills and vines and purple and red flowers, fragrance mixed with woodsmoke up from the distant fog along the valley floor and from beyond that, unseen—a vague scent of ocean. . . How can I love all this so much and be insane? . . . I don’t believe it! “(Cont.Next)
Six mi East of White City, OR. White City is now a Northern suburb of Medford, OR. Here again we see the Narrator’s need for support from “Good old reality.“ We deduce that the Narrator’s full participation in the beautiful coastal country ahead comes from the positive effects of his remembering Phaedrus’s Quality discoveries. From this, he is certain he is not insane, rather the insanity comes from the Mythos, wrongly understood and presently used in Western Culture.
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