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Time For a Rest At The Camp Buell State Historical Site.  “ …. I suddenly notice the land here has flattened into a Euclidian plane. Not a hill, not a bump anywhere. This means we have entered the Red River Valley. We will soon be into the Dakotas. ....  “  Mr. Pirsig’s caption (2002): "Chris, Bob 1st day. N. D. --This is the picture that everyone sees in black and white. It was first sent to the English publisher, Bodley Head. They put it on their jacket and everyone picked it up from there. The location is a rest stop in North Dakota on the way to Oakes at about 5 or 6 PM during the first day out. The storm described in Chap. 3 was fictional." [[[It has been a long day in the direct sun. Notice red of severe sunburn on Mr. Pirsig's hands and face. After much search effort Gary Wegner finally found that this  ZMM Rest Area photo was taken just South of]]] Milner, ND. Click on box = Camp Buell Milnor after you click here for map on Gary Wegner's Site.  On 7 September, 2006, I visited this Picnic Table and Canopy. As my photos for ZMM Part I shows, the Buell State Park is most certainly the place Mr. Pirsig's above photo was taken in July 1968. My Part I photos will have more info re Mr. Wegner's search to find this site. If you have more information, Please click here to contact me by email, telephone, or U. S. Mail. Thanks.  HSG ]]]  ************************************  (Photo = Pirsig; A. CB360_~l.TIF .  ...... ZMM Page = ~025 ...... WayPt = 17i)  
From: rbresca@hotmail.com  Wed 21 Jul 2004 07:34:52 AM EDT
This is my favourite photo. Thanks once again for posting them. It makes me sad to think that Chris was murdered years after this trip - I hope that Robert has found solace in his new marriage and child.

From: Constantine Copronimus  Fri 01 Oct 2004 12:53:55 PM EDT
It blows my mind to think of how normal Pirsig was. He was just an inconspicuous, nerdy-looking guy on a trip with his son. You'd never guess that this was the beginning of something huge.

From: knhgn@netzero.com  Tue 09 Nov 2004 05:29:23 PM EST
I've rarely, if ever, read a book more than one time. I've read "Zen" 3x now, spread out over 24 years. I'm not entirely sure what the appeal of this story has been to me, but I'm glad I discovered this site, and could finally fill in some details the narrative leaves out. I'm surprised at how small the motorcycle was, by today's standards, for such a long trip. As a father of two boys myself, ages 11 and 12, it's hard not to be moved by the picture of Chris here, at age 11, knowing he only had 12 more years left to live. Thanks for the effort it took to make this site happen.

From: Jimmmmmmmmmmmmm  Tue 14 Dec 2004 02:51:53 AM EST
Um, that man is not Persig. He's Bob. You know Bob...from down the street!

From: bob  Thu 10 Mar 2005 10:50:53 PM EST
the most wonderful things are so quietly hidden in that which is percieved as mundane ...
good work with the site !!

From: sreeji dot das at oracle.com  Tue 03 Jan 2006 12:34:09 AM EST
That is a wonderful photo. I am glad I discovered this site. You come across books like ZAMM once in a blue moon. Then you realize what a treasure it is !
Thanks for putting up this wonderful site !

From: Geoff  Tue 14 Mar 2006 07:58:28 PM EST
Thanks so much for putting these pics up. It has really added to the experience of reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance for me. Sorta fills in the gaps in the images I had in my head.

From: Silverwinger  Wed 22 Mar 2006 01:11:36 AM EST
The pics tied up some loose ends in my mind, but surprisingly the pictures he drew with his words, did just as good as the camera.

From: Peter  Mon 26 Jun 2006 09:55:51 PM EDT
I was in my local book store planning a trip on my motercycle with my 12 year old son, and I stumbled across ZMM. I am savoring every chapter, re-reading passages so as to stretch out this experiance.

From: Luis E. Gomez  Fri 27 Jun 2008 09:14:42 AM EDT
I have read this book more than 4 times and gave it as a gift to 4 bikers friends of mine bercause I consider this character is what a bike should be. Thank you for the photos.

From: Administrator (admin)  Thu 02 Sep 2010 10:52:30 AM EDT
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The Cycles Are Heavily Packed. It's Going To Be A Long Trip!  [Start Chapter 3] “By the time we are out of the Red River Valley the storm clouds are everywhere and almost upon us. .. John and I have discussed the situation in Breckenridge and decided to keep going until we have to stop.  “  Just South of Milnor,
SD.  Mr. Pirsig’s caption (2002): "Sylvia, Chris, John 1st day N.D. --Same location as A."  [[[Although it has been a long day, Chris doesn't look tired. He is holding a pair of binoculars, and is ready for action!   After much search effort Gary Wegner finally found that this ZMM Rest Area photo was taken on Rt  13, just South of Milnor.]]] Milner,ND. Click on box = Camp Buell Milnor ND after you click here for map on Gary Wegner's Site.  On 7 September, 2006, I visited this site where a small portion of a picnic Canopy is seen above at upper right. My photos for ZMM Part I show this same scenery, and thus prove the Buell State Park is most certainly the place Mr. Pirsig's above photo was taken in July 1968. My Part I photos will have more info re Mr. Wegner's search to find this site. If you have more information, Please click here to contact me by email, telephone, or U. S. Mail. Thanks.  HSG ]]]    ************************************  (Photo = Pirsig; B. PACKED~1.TIF .  ...... ZMM Page = ~025 ...... WayPt = 17i)
 
From: GHaindorff@forju.de  Wed 25 May 2005 06:04:28 PM EDT
"He was carrying me". That´s what Robert Pirsig found out, in the end, about his connection with Chris. It is clear to see in this picture: the energy, the beauty and the passion written in his face. How much we, as fathers, often underestimate our boys. What do we know.


 

The ZMM North Dakota Camping Narrative Was Taken "Right Out of This Photo!"  "We drive down a county road from Lemmon, exhausted, for what seems a long, long time, but can’t be too long because the sun is still above the horizon. The campsite is deserted. Good. But there is less than a half-hour of sun and no energy left. This is the hardest now. .. I try to get unpacked as fast as possible but am so stupid with exhaustion I just set everything by the camp road without seeing what a bad spot it is. Then I see it is too windy. This is a High Plains wind. It is semidesert here, everything burned up and dry except for a lake, a large reservoir of some sort below us. "   Liewellyn Jones Recreation Area, Shadehill Reservoir, SD.  Mr. Pirsig’s caption (2002): Morning Campground, S.D. --This scene is from the beginning of Ch 6 at the campground in South Dakota. The accompanying text is: .. "Later I turn and see John is up and looking at me uncomprehendingly. He is still not really awake, and now walks aimlessly in circles to clear his head. Soon Sylvia is up too and her left eye is all puffed up. I ask her what happened. She says it is from mosquito bites. I begin to collect gear to repack the cycle. John does the same. When this is done we get a fire started while Sylvia opens up packages of bacon and eggs and bread for breakfast."[[[ Detour in new browser frame for my photo at http://ww2.usca.edu/ResearchProjects/ProfessorGurr/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album03&id=acz ]]]  ************************************  (Photo = Pirsig; D. LUNCHB~I.TIF.  ...... ZMM Page = 050 ...... WayPt = 067w, Pix = 104-0425c)  
From: ZMMQ Site Administrator  Thu 02 Sep 2010 11:00:58 AM EDT
Please be aware that spam places in these comments are UNwelcomed. I try to keep them deleted, but please excuse if I any are here.
Henry Gurr 2 Sept 2010


 

Logging Road Campsite. July 1968.  “The logging road is sandy, so I keep in low gear with feet out to prevent a spill. We see side roads off the main logging road but I stay on the main one until after about a mile we come to some bulldozers. That means they’re still logging here. We turn back and head up one of the side roads. After about half a mile we come to a tree fallen across the road. That’s good. That means this road has been abandoned.“   . > Mr. Pirsig’s caption (2002):Idaho Forest Road--This is the scene at the beginning of Chapt. 24: .. "I get out of the sleeping bag. It's cold and I get dressed quickly. Chris is asleep. I walk around him, climb over a fallen tree trunk and walk up the logging road. To warm myself I speed up to a jog and move up the road briskly. [[[That's Chris In the Sleeping Bag. Here again we can see, reflected in the shiny gas tank, the tiny image of the person taking the photo. Click Here for my photo illustrating this passage http://ww2.usca.edu/ResearchProjects/ProfessorGurr/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album08&id=110_1049cz_5  ]]]  ************************************  (Photo = Pirsig; K. HONDA&~2.TIF.  ...... ZMM Page = 243 &246 ...... WayPt = 265w Pix =110_1049)  
From: Ross Dye  Thu 04 Dec 2003 05:38:35 PM EST
That exactly how I pictured this in my mind. The logging road, Chris sleeping... the whole thing.

From: Darren Mattinson  Mon 13 Dec 2004 05:32:50 PM EST
Same experience for me... I knew the scene before I even read the caption. Amazing.


 

Yes Indeed This Is What the Forests and Soil Look Like In This Area of Central Oregon.  “ Farther south we find a forest of scrubby trees, subdivided into ridiculous little lots. Some developer’s scheme apparently. At one of the lots far off the main highway we spread out our sleeping bags and discover that the pine needles just barely cover what must be many feet of soft spongy dust. I’ve never seen anything like it. We have to be careful not to kick up the needles or the dust flies up over everything. “  Just North of La Pine, OR. > Mr. Pirsig’s caption (2002): Morning in Oregon--This is from Chap. 28: In the background you can make out a white helmet and beside it a sleeping bag that has Chris in it. The accompanying in text reads: "Cold out! Feels like winter! Where are we, that it should get this cold? We must be at a high altitude. I look out of the sleeping bag and this time see frost on the motorcycle. On the chrome of the gas tank it's sparkling in the early sunlight. On the black frame where the sunlight hits it it's partly turned to beads of water that will soon run down to the wheel. It's too cold to lie around. I remember the dust under the pine needles and put my boots on carefully to avoid stirring it up."[[[In the comments below you will see Mr. Ted Pirsig  (Chris's brother) asked where I got these photos. Answer is at my Pirsig FAQ see 5th item down HERE.    Click Here for my photo illustrating this passage http://ww2.usca.edu/ResearchProjects/ProfessorGurr/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album09&id=113_1395_IMG ]]]  ************************************  (Photo = Pirsig; L. HONDA&~1.TIF.  ...... ZMM Page = 300 ...... WayPt = 372 w, Pix = 113_1395)  
From: rbresca@hotmail.com  Mon 20 Oct 2003 09:32:38 PM EDT
Thanks very much for posting these photos. I really enjoyed the book and the images here enable me to visualise the events.

Rob

From: oska  Sat 24 Apr 2004 09:04:14 AM EDT
It's amazing to see these photos. Thank you very much for organising their display on the web.

oska

From: bb  Mon 26 Apr 2004 07:06:32 PM EDT
Just came upon these photos. Am re-reading zmm and getting more out of it than the first time. The quality of these photos is amazing. Thnaks for posting them

From: Trilok  Fri 30 Apr 2004 04:32:10 AM EDT
Thank you for the photos. I am zenjoying the book presently and this tour will add a dimension to the experience.

From: Christopher Hobbs  Mon 12 Jul 2004 06:59:51 PM EDT
To see these pictures makes me somewhat emotional. I remember the trip that I took out west with my father. The expressions on their face. Amazing!

From: Vince Gonzales (Vince @ spiralingshape.com)  Thu 15 Jul 2004 07:23:42 PM EDT
These photos are absolutely amazing. Many (as one person noted) are exactly as I saw them in my mind. Thanks so much.

From: Sir Mildred Pierce (sirmildredpierce@gmail.com) (www.sirmildredpierce.com)  Fri 16 Jul 2004 10:28:33 AM EDT
Amazing photos! It's interesting how different I imagined some of the these scenes to be, how different I imagined the various players to be. Pirsig never spent too much time describing what people looked like. Beautifully preserved pieces of history, you've done such a great service putting these on the web.

From: R2 from R2 Texas  Sat 17 Jul 2004 01:09:07 AM EDT
Great stuff. Thanks very much for sharing them.

It's been nearly 30 years since I read ZatAoMM; my copy is a 10th printing paperback with yellowing and dog eared pages. But these pictures are so evocative that it seems like it was a trip that I myself was on, and not that long ago now that you mention it...


From: just a boy from Minsk, Belarus  Mon 23 Aug 2004 05:28:41 AM EDT
Thank you for photos. I have finished to read this book only today at morning. And now I am sitting at my work place, I am looking to this photo and I am almost crying... It is so far and so near. Everything about I read is real... Oh.. Thankz.

From: Nils Hansen  Sun 29 Aug 2004 02:31:08 PM EDT
Fantastic! I had just gotten back to re-reading my third time through ZMM and decided to go on-line to find out what was out there for Robert Pirsig. I had known about the two photos in b/w of him from a prior search some years back, but then to find this site! Wow how exciting it was to “see” parts of the trip. The shot of Pirsig with Chris on the Honda in original color took me back to being out West with my mother as a kid. This site is great. Not enough words for the joy here! Looking forward to the follow up material for “GPSing” future trips. Nils Hansen

From: Tom Matthews colnagodreaming@yahoo.com.au  Sat 04 Sep 2004 05:56:57 AM EDT
Reading ZMM for the first time stunned me. Each subsequent reading hit me even harder. So much so that it seemed a little surreal, wondering whether or not I was becoming neurotic. Fortunately my late father felt the same. At his funeral his eulogy included paraphrasing of Phaedrus' "What is truth Phaedrus , and what is not truth. Need we ask to tell us these things?"

It still haunts me. To see these images of Pirsig, and especially of his vulnerable little son on this website is very moving. One of my life "dreams" is to ride over the ZMM course.

Thankyou for providing this site. I would send it to my Dad,were he here, I miss him as Pirsig must miss Chris....

From: Cressy from Exeter NH  Mon 15 Nov 2004 10:24:20 PM EST
Few books come along in a lifetime that make you think. I spent two years in N. Dakota and look back to that time 32 years ago with only good thoughts. Simpler times breed fond memories like single cylinder bikes. I think it's time for me to re-visit motorcycle maintenance.........!

From: Dan from Israel  Wed 15 Dec 2004 11:02:38 AM EST
During the past 30 years i have purchased ZatAoMM 8 times because no one has given it back after borrowing it from my library...
Now after looking at these pictures i know why ...
Thank you.
Dan Hanoch.

From: Sean Earnshaw from Scotland  Tue 11 Jan 2005 04:55:29 PM EST
Thank you so much for these pictures. Very moving. I'm reading ZMM for, I think, the seventh time since 1984. No book has influenced my life more.

From: Saul, from Guatemala  Thu 03 Feb 2005 10:05:15 AM EST
Wow, they look so different from what I had imagined them to look like. I've read the book 3 times, and I didn't even know there were pictures of the actual trip! I guess some editions do not include pictures in them.

Thanks for an invaluable service.

From: Steve from Texas  Mon 07 Mar 2005 08:36:14 PM EST
I stumbled across this by happy accident of a search engine result, and am now on my way to find my copy of ZMM for another read. Thank you for making the effort to share these. I simply hadn't expected to feel anything from looking at twelve photos.

From: Jane from NYC, Texas  Sat 12 Mar 2005 02:18:56 AM EST
Striking photographs. I'm reading Zen for the first time and totally enthralled. It is, to borrow Pirsig's imagery, a perfect literary machine. Chris looks happier than I expected. Thanks for this.

From: Aaron  Tue 15 Mar 2005 02:32:01 AM EST
I just reread these words an hour ago...

From: Floyd  Thu 02 Jun 2005 10:38:08 PM EDT
Thank you for posting these photos. You have a very nice web-site! I have read the book 3 times so far. Wow!

From: Michiel Sweere - Moscow  Thu 21 Jul 2005 02:16:30 PM EDT
This is like finding long forgotten family pictures, or pictures from an old friend. Certainly from a man who has shaped my way of thinking and living. Thanks for sharing them!

From: ZMMQ Site Administrator  Thu 02 Sep 2010 11:29:56 AM EDT
I have just deleted all spams from these photos. If yoy see more please know they are unwelcomed here, so please send me an email, if you see more of these "baddies" here. Henry Gurr 2 Sept 2010


 

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